When we're wrong about something — not when we realize it, but before that — we're like that coyote after he's gone off the cliff and before he looks down. And now I know that there's nothing wrong with different, and that we can let things be different, we don't have to try and make them black or white, we can just let them be grey. There are many arguments, thousands, that support Tyson and the way in which he views the world. NY 10036. Klosterman asks if our belief in democracy might lead to the failure of society, and speculates as to which writer who isn't even born yet is going to be as important as Hemingway, Melville or Kafka. It would feel more reflective than entertaining, which is precisely why certain things get remembered while certain others get lost.”, “History is a creative process (or as Napoleon Bonaparte once said, “a set of lies agreed upon”). And it's that smaller part that matters more, because that part of our mind is who we really are (whether we like it or not).”, “... the future is a teenage crackhead who makes shit up as he goes along.”, “We must start from the premise that—in all likelihood—we are already wrong. And we're gonna lose some of these battles. The sheer amount of information about every current idea makes those concepts difficult to contradict, particularly in a framework where public consensus has become the ultimate arbiter of validity. Leo: Well, you can start by telling the Hill the President's named his nominees to the FEC. John: We don't know a thing about each other. I knew beyond all doubt that the dark things crowding in on me either did not exist or were not dangerous to me, and still I was afraid. "They're a noble and - ""They're a noble and incredibly girly animal," Joel said. Now with Greene, he was more like, "This is a crazy hypothetical! Oh, we can populate the dark with horrors, even we who think ourselves informed and sure, believing nothing we cannot measure or weigh. Yet this wholly logical position discounts the overwhelming likelihood that we currently don't know something critical about the experience of life, much less the ultimate conclusion to the experience. There was a problem. Cut them out right now, and you’ll be much better off—I promise. You can only make a difference by being different. Because every strength is a weakness, if given enough time.”. In the U.S., there are absolutely no speech boundaries imposed by the government. And in infinity, all things that could possibly happen will happen. I suspect it might be this: The Matrix was written and directed by “the Wachowski siblings.” In 1999, this designation meant two brothers; as I write today, it means two sisters. What do you mean by that? So while it seems unrealistic to seriously consider the prospect of life after death, it seems equally naïve to assume that our contemporary understanding of this phenomenon is remotely complete. It hijacks conversation and aborts ideas. - Joseph Campbell. tags: drama, love, passion, upset. Below is a Q&A with Klosterman that was edited for brevity. We have a limited understanding of consciousness. Anne Frank. In other words, we’re starting to behave as if we’ve reached the end of human knowledge. Our ground game isn't working; we're gonna put the ball in the air. NPR's Kelly McEvers talks with author and cultural critic, Chuck Klosterman. There's a subset of readers who will adore Chuck Klosterman's most recent book, But What if We're Wrong?, and a second (likely larger) subset who will view it as frustrating and pointless intellectual masturbation. Please deactivate your ad blocker in order to see our subscription offer, (Image: © Lightspring | Shutterstock.com), Read an excerpt from Klosterman's new book, "But What If We're Wrong? Klosterman: Well, I address a whole bunch of different categories of thought. It's a continual path that shows we don't always know something, but we're always shifting to a path that makes us feel more comfortable in the moment, even if that shift is wrong, and a new shift is destined to happen again. It’s impossible to understand the world of today until today has become tomorrow. ", Klosterman: Part of it is I was watching the Fox reboot of "Cosmos," the one that Neil deGrasse Tyson is the host of. Live Science caught up with Klosterman to get the lowdown on his book and all of its "wrongness." It becomes, “Klosterman’s Razor: the philosophical belief that the best hypothesis is the one that reflexively accepts its potential wrongness to begin with. Aristotle had his run as the smartest man on the planet, but he got disproved by Galileo, who was trumped by Newton, until Einstein ruled the roost. You can also follow @McLauchlin on Twitter. This makes football akin to the Confederate flag, or Christmas decorations in public spaces, or taxpayer-supported art depicting Jesus in a tank of urine—something that becomes intractable precisely because so many people want to see it eliminated. I think it's important to accept that things that seem almost beyond question still need to be questioned. If you think I'm one of those people who try to be funny at breakfast you're wrong. When considered rationally, there is no justification for believing that anything happens to anyone upon the moment of his or her death. Netflix documentary says yes. “The reason so many well-considered ideas appear laughable in retrospect is that people involuntarily assume that whatever we believe and prioritize now will continue to be believed and prioritized later, even though that almost never happens. Suddenly, the symbolic meaning of a universe with two worlds—one false and constructed, the other genuine and hidden—takes on an entirely new meaning. The 5 Greatest Scientific Blunders]. And note that I used the word “detriment.” I did not use the word “danger,” because I don’t think the notion of people living under the misguided premise that they’re right is often dangerous. A reasonable person expects subjective facts to be overturned, because subjective facts are not facts; they're just well-considered opinions, held by multiple people at the same time. So I know in the science category, all scientists are going to see is the simplicity of my thinking, and the evidence that I'm in over my head. We should be intellectually humble because science and time have a way of humbling us. Chuck Klosterman's "But What If We're Wrong?" 162 likes. [Read an excerpt from Klosterman's new book, "But What If We're Wrong?"]. But I don't have the argument for that other than, "That's what everyone thinks until it changes." But if I'm right, and we can stop this thing, Lenny, you will have saved the lives of millions of registered voters. And he … did not. We'll enjoy it. In his book, Klosterman tries to imagine the world today viewed from the vantage point of a distant future, and attempts to suss out what humans might have gotten wrong. And not “wrong” in the sense that we are examining questions and coming to incorrect conclusions, because most of our conclusions are reasoned and coherent. I don't know where we're meeting, I don't even know your name. We are not often wrong about how we currently perceive, but rather we are wrong about how other people in the future will perceive. A handful of highly specific dreams, such as slowly losing one’s teeth, are experienced unilaterally by unrelated people in unconnected cultures. Some would argue that this trade off is worth it. “It's not given to people to judge what's right or wrong. Even Bostrom admits the high end of this probability is 20 percent. [Read Live Science… His new book But What If We're Wrong investigates which things we take as certainties might one day be proven wrong. Does it feel like proof just because we want it to be true? This is not easy (even with drugs). And while that notion is undoubtedly false, the sensation of certitude it generates is paralyzing.”, “It's nice to think that the weirdos get to decide what matters about the past, since it's the weirdos who care the most.”, “If a problem is irreversible, is there still an ethical obligation to try to reverse it?”, “This is how the present must be considered whenever we try to think about it as the past: It must be analyzed through the values of a future that’s unwritten. Sometimes life is just hard. It’s a mistake that never stops being made.”, “We spend our lives learning many things, only to discover (again and again) that most of what we've learned is either wrong or irrelevant. Now will that happen? But I feel the way we view science now and the way we will view it in 500 years are going to be radically different. We're inside the now, so we can't really see it, but this process must be happening all the time. Klosterman: Well … my first answer would be yes. [5 Reasons We May Live in a Multiverse]. That makes a lot of sense to me. 31. You know, we're already wrong, we're already in trouble, but we feel like we're on solid ground. That's the premise of a new book that poses the question:  What if we were wrong? Directed by Alan J. Pakula.Written by William Goldman, based on the book by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein. "Oh hush, you," she said. But no matter how many times we re-rank them, in another 200 years, the top presidents will still be Washington and Lincoln and Jefferson, because they defined what a president is. If we're gonna walk into walls, I want us running into them full-speed. But I don't know if we as simple people really have the ability to grasp infinity. We've only just met, and we're going to go and look at a flat? There's NOTHING wrong with standing out and being different. At times it looked like it might cost them their jobs, their reputations, and maybe even their lives.taglines We can't truly conceive the conditions of a multidimensional reality, even though we’re (probably) already living inside one. “If someone is really close with you, your getting upset or them getting upset is okay, and they don’t change because of it. In other words, everyone concedes we have the potential to be subjectively wrong about anything, as long as we don't explicitly name whatever that something is.”, “If Elvis ..is the definition of rock, then rock is remembered as showbiz...It becomes a solely performative art form, where the meaning of a song matters less than the person singing it. People have eternally been mistaken and will be mistaken, and in nothing more than in what they consider right and wrong.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace tags: judge, right, wrong So I should actually correct something I said a moment ago. His new book But What If We're Wrong investigates which things we take as certainties might one day be proven wrong. Thinking About the Present As If It Were the Past, But What If We're Wrong? But all I was trying to do was say, "I'm not trying to contradict what you believe, because in all likelihood, I believe it, too. Do you think these 20 numbers give a seemingly crazy argument some credence? 29. A big part of our mind can handle this; a smaller, deeper part cannot. It will more likely derive from our uncompromising belief in the things we consider unimpeachable and idealized and beautiful. Sherlock: Problem? I don't know if the 20 numbers are, because the converse to the argument that this is all some kind of computer simulation is the idea of infinity. Live Science: But isn't "well now we're right" the exact arrogance that puts us back to pre-Copernicus? Here are seven well-meaning phrases that will pretty much always be taken the wrong way. I think that he was skeptical about what my real reasons for writing a book like this were. And it's that smaller part that matters more, because that part of our mind is who we really are (whether we like it or not).” The hardest part is accepting that we’re building something with parts that don’t yet exist.”, “There is, certainly, an unbreachable chasm between the subjective and objective world. You will receive a verification email shortly. Glenn Greenwald Live Science: In discussing the simulation argument, you bring up those 20-or-so numbers that seem to guide the universe: the gravitational constant, the mass of an electron, and so on. “Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong.” When it comes to the origins of this saying by Edward A. Murphy, there are several versions to it, but it all depends on who you’re asking. …logic doesn’t work particularly well when applied to the future. And we might even lose the White House. But if you remove the specificity and ask, "Is it possible that someone currently viewed as a historically great president will have that view reversed by future generations?" A great memorable quote from the Ghost Busters movie on Quotes.net - Dr. Peter Venkman: If we're wrong, we go to jail - peacefully, quietly. So many quotable quotes but the ones which reached out and grabbed me include: "What if some of our fundamental ideas about obesity are just wrong? Quotes By Chuck Klosterman. And the only macro-argument against that would be, "Well, that's what everyone thinks until it changes.". Their performance on "The Ed Sullivan Show" alone impacted the culture so strongly, and rippled so strongly forward. Whats wrong with being different Anonymous. But if things work out rationally … probably them. "I've got my masculine reputation to think of." You make a mistake.A setback slips out from around a corner and hits you between the eyes. [laughs] Everything I know about the history of ideas tells me "probably not." What I mean about continuums is that I'm not really dealing with any specific problem, especially as it applies to science. Live Science: What have you learned in researching and writing this book? The younger Wachowski (Andy, now Lilly) publicly announced her transition in the spring of 2016. that we should always be questioning the status quo—and majority opinion. And you know what? any smart person will agree that such a scenario is not only plausible but inevitable. The problem is with the questions themselves.”, “This is the difference between the fox and the hedgehog. Live Science: You mention the "simulation argument" popularized by Nick Bostrom in which we all might be sentient gamepieces in a hyper-advanced game of "The Sims." Nigeria's unity is one for which enough blood has been spilled and many hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost. All the President's Men is a 1976 film about two journalists investigating the Watergate scandal for the Washington Post.. 28. It’s just part of the relationship. Even if it takes someone dumber than you to point that out. Every band after the Beatles was subconsciously modeling themselves after the Beatles to some degree. Rick Warren. “Here's in extreme example: the possibility of life after death. “All relationships have problems. But these events are so personal and inscrutable that we’ve stopped trying to figure out what they mean.”, “I think there’s a greater detriment with our escalating progression toward the opposite extremity—the increasingly common ideology that assures people they’re right about what they believe. We can explain it, and we can even explain it to a 5-year-old. As a consequence, the United States is a safe space for those who want to criticize the government, but a dangerous place for those who want to advance unpopular thoughts about any other subject that could be deemed insulting or discomforting. The point is (and it’s a point well made in Chuck Klosterman’s book But What If We’re Wrong?) We celebrate with the best quotes from the comedy classic. Jaylon Hillsman. Enjoy reading and share 100 famous quotes about You're Wrong with everyone. [Oops! It feels right in a lot of ways. _____________________________”, “So think how this might alter the memory of, “History is defined by people who don’t really understand what they are defining.”, “It will come to be seen as the persecution of a culture. Just a moment while we sign you in to your Goodreads account. That’s as true for culture as it is for science, and the uniquely intellectual and dexterous Klosterman dives in with verve. I don't have any proof for it, and science is a world of proof. And while there have been some hints of "proving Einstein wrong," nothing has really stuck. Sherlock: I know you're an Army doctor, and you've been invalided home from Afghanistan. Explore 1000 Wrong Quotes (page 6) by authors including H. L. Mencken, Abraham Lincoln, and Thomas Jefferson at BrainyQuote. And it occurred to me that this must still be happening now. A great memorable quote from the Ghostbusters movie on Quotes.net - [The Ghostbusters try to convince New York's Mayor to let them go and face the ghost threat all over the Big Apple]Peter Venkman: Well, you can believe Mr. Pecker...Walter Peck: My name is 27. I probably quote him at length more than anyone else in the book. But it's impossible not to write about science in this, because of the overall thesis/argument of the book. Thank you for signing up to Live Science. They are the idea, and you can't be better than the idea. Refresh and try again. Face the facts of being what you are, for that is what changes what you are. That's as true for culture as it is for science, and the uniquely intellectual and dexterous Klosterman dives in with verve. And what I found is an ultimately predictable thing: Someone who is an expert in television will have issues with the section on television, but assume that everything else makes sense. I would believe that to be true. But let's just say we're both wrong, and that'll be that. But even so, scientific "fact" is a fact only until it's proved wrong. Or you fall into a rough patch, a crisis or feel that you’re too far away from achieving your dream and you just want to pack up and go home.. That's when you need to stay strong. The strength of your relationship is defined by your ability to overcome them.” -Unknown. Error rating book. But I don't have a persuasive argument to convince anyone of that other than giving them the idea and saying, "Hey, think about this." The things we do when other people are watching are things that are conformist, obedient, normal, and unnotable. It seems as though the history of ideas is the history of being wrong. The idea of a character choosing between swallowing a blue pill that allows him to remain a false placeholder and a red pill that forces him to confront who he truly is becomes a much different metaphor. It makes the experience of living in a society slightly worse than it should be.”, “We live in an age where virtually no content is lost and virtually all content is shared. If you restore a car, and you're making money, then you're doing it wrong. But we can't truly comprehend the magnitude of the infinite. is a book about the big things we’re wrong about that don’t get discussed, just because everyone assumes they can never happen. In the fifteen-year window from 1999 to 2014, no aspect of interpersonal civilization changed more, to the point where Caitlyn (formerly Bruce) Jenner attracted more Twitter followers than the president (and the importance of this shift will amplify as the decades pass—soon, the notion of a transgender US president will not seem remotely implausible). We just can't recognize it until we get outside of the time frame. Hindsight is 20/20, right? They can petition advertisers and marginalize the artist's reception and economically remove that individual from whatever platform he or she happens to utilize simply because there are no expression based platforms that don't have an economic underpinning. We all live with the objective of being happy; our lives are all different and yet the same. Love Quotes 81k Life Quotes 63.5k Inspirational Quotes 60.5k Humor Quotes 38k Philosophy Quotes 24.5k God Quotes 22k Inspirational Quotes Quotes 20.5k Truth Quotes 19.5k Wisdom Quotes 18.5k Poetry Quotes 17.5k Romance Quotes 17k If the expression doesn't involve national security the government generally doesn't give a shit. It was also well received by critics, most of whom focused on one of two qualities—the technological (it mainstreamed the digital technique of three-dimensional “bullet time,” where the on-screen action would freeze while the camera continued to revolve around the participants) or the philosophical (it served as a trippy entry point for the notion that we already live in a simulated world, directly quoting philosopher Jean Baudrillard’s 1981 reality-rejecting book Simulacra and Simulation). Most things in the world aren't black, aren't white, aren't wrong, aren't right, but most of everything is just different. Chuck Klosterman's "But What If We're Wrong?" Klosterman: Well, in a rational world, the answer is the Beatles. And the Beatles set the template for what a rock band is supposed to be like. Easily move forward or backward to get to the perfect spot. I don't have those qualifications! But most things in the world aren't either! It hijacks conversation and aborts ideas. Live Science: You spoke to Brian Greene and Neil deGrasse Tyson for this book. Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) In 1999, it was almost impossible to find any example of a trans person within any realm of popular culture; by 2014, a TV series devoted exclusively to the notion won the Golden Globe for Best Television Series. So the citizenry creates its own limitations based on the arbitrary values of whichever activist group is most successful at inflicting its worldview upon an economically fragile public sphere. Airplane!, the greatest parody movie of all time, turns 40 today. 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